God I still can’t get used to that really being you. You don’t seem serious enough.
You know it’s really me.
I guess I do. God there are still a few church pastors nervous about this idea of having a conversation with you – they say that I’m leading people astray with this idea that we can have a back and forward conversation with you. When that happens I find that if I’m not on my guard I start doubting you.
So be on your guard Mark! This has happened to almost every single person who ever tried to achieve anything for me – God’s people opposed them.
Because they’re people.
Who? The people who achieved things for you?
Well yes of course they were, but actually I’m talking about God’s people, the people who opposed those who achieved things for me.
It doesn’t make sense though, it should be the opposite. Why does it happen that way? Why do some of your people oppose what you’re doing??
They’re people, human. Humans oppose things, often the things that they need most.
Because if a human needs something it often means that they don’t already have it. And if they don’t already have something they don’t fully understand it. And when humans don’t understand something they feel safer opposing it. People didn’t like the idea of athletes running a four minute mile - they said the athlete’s heart would burst through their chest. People didn’t like the idea of travelling over 30 mph in a car – they said it would irreversibly damage the human body. People said Nikola Tessla was mad when he invented radio waves and that Wycliffe was evil when he wanted the bible in language that the common people could understand. People are always saying that something new is wrong. Always.
Because people, all people, Christians, Jews, Buddhists, Muslims, Hindus, Atheists – every single belief system on earth – all of you have missed the crucial point, the real reason for your existence.
You know what I mean Mark. The reason for your existence is a proper human sort of relationship with me – you’re human so the only sort of relationship we can have is a human one. I’m not talking about the works and performance based sort of relationship that Religion teaches you that Christianity is all about. I’m talking about actually conversing back and forward with the silent voice of the invisible God. Me. Us. The three of us.
The three of us and you, that’s what you’re here for. Yet so few of you know how to do it. Many of you oppose the very idea, others of you teach it and want it, but struggle to actually experience it. And that is NOT how it is meant to be. Mark there is hardly anyone who understands the real dynamic of constantly uncovering and hearing the silent voice of the invisible God. Among all your teachers and experts – hardly anyone.
Because the Supreme Liar has seen to it that you don’t.
God that’s offensive, saying that will offend… it will certainly offend some pastors for instance. They don’t think they’re susceptive to the devil’s lies. They’re not are they?
Of course they are, you all are.
Maybe you’d better have this conversation with someone else God? I’m already not flavour of the month with some of them and this will just put me offside with the growing number who are starting to go with this message – the ones who are catching on and teaching that a back and forward conversation with you is actually on the right track.
No it won’t put them off Mark. There are A GROWING NUMBER OF PASTORS AND LEADERS hungry to learn about a conversation with me.
Ok but God what to do about the few who aren’t? They ask who I’m submitted to, what bible college I went to. They say that listening to you is dangerous and we should just read the bible. They have all sorts of rules about how to listen to you, how to check every single thing you say – rules that sound good in practise and would work if you only spoke a sentence a month, but aren’t at all practical when you speak back and forward all day.
Drop it Mark. Move on. They’re people, they don’t understand the real dynamic of a back and forward conversation with me – which is why they don’t try it. If they tried it they would think differently. I’ve taught you how to test the spirits, do it my way and you’ll be safe.
God I keep thinking you want to talk about listening to voices, those few church leaders who are still afraid of the idea of a conversation with you seem consumed with the fear that it will see their people listening to voices. Or do you want to keep talking about this subject?
It’s the same subject Mark. I want to talk about why people, any kind of people don’t understand the idea of a conversation with me. It’s because they’ve never been taught about it. In church, out of church, no one gets taught this. In fact most are taught the very opposite. Which is how the ‘listening to voices’ topic fits with what we’re discussing here.
How does it fit?
Mark it’s true that some church pastors are still afraid that their people will end up listening to voices if they attempt a conversation with me – but what they don’t realise is that actually the exact opposite is true.
How do you mean God?
If you DON’T have a conversation with me you WILL hear more spirit voices. You don’t realise you’re hearing them already but most of you are listening to them all day long. They pretend to be your own thoughts, but they lie. The only way to hear less of their voices is to hear more of mine. There’s no way to escape that dynamic – it’s true.
God people will think I’m a fruit loop talking about ‘spirit voices’.
Mark as you’ve just mentioned they thought the same of Nikola Tesla, but imagine your lives without his ground-breaking work on radio waves.
Ok, but how come people don’t know this stuff about spirit voices God? How come people don’t recognise they are surrounded by the wrong voices?
Easy. The voices tell you that there are no voices. You have to admit that’s a fairly smart strategy.
Not everyone falls for it though God. Lots of people in the world recognise that the universe is teaming with spiritual voices.
Yes but the majority have completely the wrong idea about who those voices are. The voices pretend they are something they are not, and people believe them, but that’s not the discussion I want to have this morning. I want to talk about ‘God’s people’, the people who are trying to have a relationship with me. The voices tell them a different lie, a much more cunning lie because these people are more dangerous to the voices.
Who are the voices?
The voices are the silent ones. Silent but very vocal. Silent to the human ear, but loud to the spirit of a man. Loud where a man can be afraid or mislead.
God Michelle Hill told me how her son Thomas saw what he called ‘the shadows of men’ when he was very young.
Yes because that’s one of the forms they take. A child sees more clearly than an adult. Thomas saw them.
TO BE CONTINUED… (Part Two coming).
PRAISE FOR THE FREEDOM DIARIES
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Like a child on Christmas morning, I was delighted to discover how simple yet wonderful it is to place my hand into the hand of God and listen to his whispers and enjoy his affection. I could only ask why no one had ever told me he was this good and this close. I wish I had read this book a long, long time ago. Daniel Walker. Founder and Executive Director of Nvader. Author of God in a brothel.
This is new and exciting. It’s not the idea of hearing from God that’s new, it’s having conversations back and forth, question and answers. That’s new for most of us. Now I am enjoying my own conversations with God, which always leave me with hope. David Garratt of Scripture in Song. Hawaii.
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